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HP 3580A Spectrum Analyzer: Digital display fix, and ancient CMOS circuits

With most of the 3580A functions working again, we still need to fix the digital display. Essentially, the 3580A uses a digital scope circuit, similar to those use in digital oscilloscopes of the 70s.

First, some study of the ADC. The 1973 HP Journal has all the details, it is successive approximation, peak detecting ADC.

Checking the input to the digital display board, blue trace, and the comparator/approximator input to the ADC, yellow. Seems something is wrong with the ADC ciruit, or it’s timing-counter control systems.

After considerable checking and probing, I found the issue, a dead 4019 CMOS, 4×2 multiplexer. Replaced it with a “new” part, taking great care to avoid any static discharge to the board.

The dead part, it is almost a historic piece! 1974, only a few year after the introduction of CMOS circuits by RCA!

That’s the full board. Multiplayer construction. Plenty of precision resistors that are needed for the ADC circuit.

Another working antique part – the 2102 S-RAM, Intel, 1 kbit per circuit. 8 pieces – a total of 1 kbyte of SRAM!

Working display…

10 kHz reference display… Great!

Even the log scale scan is working.

One tip – put all the screws and parts in a box, and check that it is empty afterwards. So many instrumented I receive here in the workshop are missing some screws or other parts.

HPAK 1345A Digital Display: a great worry, and a shorted tantalum cap

The 1345A is almost a one-of-a-kind, not easily replaced by something else – it is a display unit designed by HP during the early 80s, and used in quite a few instruments that are still of value today. These instruments include various analyzers, e.g., 3577 series network analyzers, 356x series signal analyzers, 4145 semiconductor analyzer, and so on.

it takes in some 16 bit digital data, and converts it into strokes, which are then displayed on an electrostatic (!) CRT.
1345 block diagram

This repair, I almost wanted to refuse it, because with a description of “dark display”, typically, the CRT is at fault, and there is not much to be done about it – I have a few spare parts here, for the 1345A, but no CRT. My greatest worry, having to deal with things beyond repair.

Well, after some debate, the thing arrived and it has been gathering dust here. Now, I openend it up. Big surprise. The 15 V rail fuse of the 1345A was blown. Took a while to track down which of the various boards was causing the issue. Turns out, the A1 is shorting the rail.
Nothing suspicious was found, so I just left it powered with a current-limited supply, to feel where the power is going. A bit of smell. A 2.2 µF tantalum cap!!

For many other devices, failed caps are a common observation. Not so much for HP equipment, even after 30 years. Quick look at the parts list:
a1 parts list

The part specified is a Vishay/Sprague 150D series tantalum cap:
vishay 150d tantalum cap

As shown on the datasheet, these are very reliable, the best around. However – these are not the caps found in the 1345A. Maybe, at some point, HP switched to some cheaper tantalums (the 150Ds are about 2 USD each!).

With no axial caps around, all the tantalums were checked, and 1 found defective, 1 suspicious. These were replaced by electrolytic capacitors – good enough.
1345a a1 stroke gen xyz board replaced caps 2
Red frames: replaced caps, yellow frames: original tantalums, still working.

After putting back a good number of screws, a quick test, and, success!

1345a working display

Needless to say, following the old rule of first checking the power supply rails, and looking for defective caps, is still helpful, although it doesn’t usually help a lot (like in this case) when it comes to test equipment.